Ask Otzi

Sometimes someone comes back from the dead to haunt you. This time it is ‘Otzi the Ice-man’.

The internet site, Malaga Bay, started it off with a post on the Mendenhall Glacier in Alaska. The retreating glacier had uncovered an ancient forest where tree stumps were still to be found in the original position where they once flourished. Wiki gave two particular dates for the trees, about 400 BCE, and ~650 CE. Interestingly both dates correspond to near roots of the enigmatic Eddy cycle. Both dates are from a somewhat little known periods.

From another perspective, Alaska, -and Siberia-, are sites where well preserved mammal remains have, and still are, being found, that raise questions on how they perished. The ‘Ice-age mammals of the Yukon’ show the wide variety of fauna and flora. They were preserved by a ‘fast freeze’ at a time when the climate of the locality then appears to have been warmer than today, as evident by the flora and fauna that the melting ice is uncovering. The interest at this site is mainly on the dating. Dates of some of the Yukon  specimens are placed to the previous ice age period. The Mendenhall trees date to very interesting period post the Holocene Max.

Then came Otzi the Ice-man. Trawling for info came up with this paper. “Radiocarbon dating of the Iceman Ötzi with accelerator mass spectrometry” by Walter Kutschera. This paper came up with a date bang on to a very interesting time. According to the paper and relevant to the vegetative growth in the find place, “Since they apparently grew also at 3210 m (the Ötzi finding place) indicates that a warmer period than today may have existed at the respective time period.”. Possibly therefore it was below the permanent ice line at the time. Which raises the question: what is the ‘fast freeze’ attributed to?

There is a possible answer; one that has showed up elsewhere too. Of the range of dates that appear in the paper one date sticks out; 3230 – 3100 BCE. That date can be narrowed to 3195BCE from tree-rings, or possible 3202BCE based on the Kepler Trigon and Eddy cycle correlation ( )

This is where Otzi the Ice-man comes to life. Did he happen to witness an Earth upheaval that was also fatal to him? Tectonic upheaval in the Mediterranean at that date is evident in the rotation of the megalithic calendars. That same date is marked in research in North Atlantic Ice rafting. The location of the Otzi find ended under ice for the past 5000 years. How? Was it a tectonic uplift to a new elevation rather than just temperature change? Ice core data from the poles indicate that ‘temperature anomaly’ was even higher by 2200 BCE.

Update 1 (Dec 2020):     New data has appeared recently here    Two points of concurrence are evident from this new research. In Discussion it is said “the WSS summit location at 3500 m altitude was ice-free during an interval prior to (5.9 ± 0.7) ka.” This agrees with an Earth obliquity change to a lower value at 3550bce/ 5k5y BP, resulting in abruptly colder higher latitudes (but the onset of Sahara desiccation). Then later it is said ” at around 5.3–5.1 ka cal, no ice existed at nearby Tisenjoch, at 3210 m. The fact that the lifetime of the Iceman falls within the maximum age range determined for the WSS summit glacier suggests that a rather rapid neoglaciation ended the formerly near ice-free conditions at the summits in this region.” This agrees with a tectonic event at ~3200bce/ 5k15y BP.  A tectonic event, such as an uplift to higher altitude changes site conditions on a more permanent level. This agrees with the concluding statement. In the conclusion it is said that “Around the lifetime of the Tyrolean Iceman and slightly earlier, rapid ice formation started and some of this ice cover exists to this day.” Which preserved the ice-man to this day without the least body decay.

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